The Dartmouth Board of Public Works convened on August 3, 2026. The first order of business was the approval of a $25,000 professional services amendment with AECOM for the annual monitoring of Cedarell Lake, a requirement by the D.E.P. related to the Penelli and Violet wells. After a brief discussion about the 12-15 years of existing data and the potential to re-evaluate the necessity of this monitoring in the future, the board unanimously approved the contract amendment. The primary focus of the meeting was an interview with Lee Anzinera, a candidate for one of two open seats on the board. Mr. Anzinera detailed his nearly 38 years of experience in public works, including his previous 10-year tenure on the Dartmouth Board of Public Works and his roles as DPW Director in Woonsocket and Mansfield. Board members discussed his extensive background in transportation planning, wastewater management, and securing state funding. Following the interview, the board discussed how to present their recommendations to the Select Board, who would make the final appointments. The board members expressed their preferences among the four candidates interviewed. They ultimately voted to recommend a ranked list of three candidates: Lee Anzinera as their first choice, James Richie as their second, and Andy Greenlaw as their third. The motion to recommend the top two passed unanimously, and a subsequent motion to add the third choice passed 2-0 with one abstention. The meeting concluded after a board member thanked all 12 original applicants for their interest in serving the community.
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Good morning. I'd like to convene the August 3rd, 2026 meeting of the Dartmouth Board of Public Works. Um we'll take a roll call. Mr. Leel here.
0:18Mr. G here.
0:20Uh the chair is here. We've got uh everyone in attendance. Uh, first order of business is to approve a professional services amendment for monitoring at Cedarell Lake. Tim, do you want to give us a summary?
0:35So, this is our annual uh contract uh renewal to continue monitoring at Cedell Pond Lake um required by D. the uh with the with the Penelli wells uh going online along with the Violet wells, we D has mandated that we continue monitoring. So last year we spent a little more money in this because we upgraded all of our monitoring equipment. So and then [clears throat] this year uh the the new contract or
1:06contract renewal is for $25,000 uh for AECOM.
1:11And in the in the future, I'll ask them rather than um an amendment that they submit it as a new as a new contract for the new fiscal year.
1:22Board members, any questions?
1:24Tim, on this and I understand it's related to the draw down on Violet well and the Penelli wells.
1:31Yes. Have you seen historically uh any data on when you're pumping especially via lettera um whether or not uh it has an effect on the the lake the lake height? We haven't actually seen an impact from the draw from the well draw down but the D continues to require that we monitor. We have a lot of data. Um and we did also go through some some drought periods where we were not pumping and the lake
2:05did dry up uh during the drought periods when we weren't pumping. Um I know a lot of that lake is is also fed by storm water. So yeah, so when you're going through a drought and we don't have rain, there are, you know, the the lake levels do drop. I mean, there may need to be some maintenance in that in that lake area, but we we don't maintain the lake.
2:30Tim, how many years of data do we have now?
2:37Probably 12, 15. Uh perhaps in next year's contract we could ask AECOM to give us a a separate task to uh do a an evaluation of 12 years of data and climate conditions and come to a conclusion about whether the monitoring should um continue.
3:04Absolutely.
3:04Might save us a little bit of money every year.
3:08Any other questions, board members? No.
3:10No. We have the money, right?
3:12Yes, we do. Yes.
3:15Yeah. It's this is funded out of our water division consultant services line item.
3:22Motion to approve.
3:25Motion by Mr. Leel, second by Mr. G. Mr.
3:27Leel, how do you vote?
3:28Yes.
3:29Mr. Gier, yes.
3:31Chair votes yes. Item is approved. Um, next item is interview for board of public works. Uh, Mr. Anzinera. Do I have it right?
3:48Good morning.
3:49Good morning. Um, we have this.
3:56Yeah, you my voice doesn't project very well.
3:59You're welcome to sit there or at the table. Whatever you're comfortable with.
4:03Your preference.
4:04Oh, whatever your preference is, sir.
4:06You're our guest.
4:09All right. There's also a podium if you feel like that's fine.
4:12Standing at a podium.
4:13Do I have my back?
4:15What's that?
4:17What's that?
4:18Uh to the camera.
4:19Oh, probably one of them. If you you can move over here a little bit and on the end. Yeah, sure.
4:28That works.
4:29Sure. All right. That's great. So now my my hearing aids don't have to work so hard.
4:36I tough to get old. I always get in trouble when I don't wear them.
4:43So, we have um some questions as a framework. We don't necessarily ask all the questions um depending on what kind of a conversation we have. So, if we could start by having you give us a little bit of information about yourself and why you're interested in serving on the board of public works.
5:05Uh I have been involved in public works for I think almost 38 years.
5:12I think it was 1990 um 89 when I took over. I think you have the information there when I took over SDPW director in moon socket where I served till the end of 95 and then January 2nd of 96 I went to Mensfield where I served as stone engineer for about a year and a half and then went back to public works director where which I served there until uh March 1st of 2022
5:42as public works director uh once we formed the regional wastewater district.
5:46I also served as executive director of the regional wiswire district, but the commissioners had said that they didn't want it uh they allowed me to do it because I was part of the creation, but it wasn't going to go to the uh my replacement. So, I offered to continue doing it, which I have been as a uh contractor now for over four and a half years. So, I still work part-time,
6:13mostly remote. Um but I'm still active just on the wastewater side. Serve more as a executive director more on the uh a little technical when I have to file reports. I do have to use my stamp once in a while and mostly budgeting. I still manage a $7 million budget. We have three member communities, Mansfield, Foxboro, and Norton. I the the operations is Mansfield. We have an operations agreement and um we have
6:42seven commissions. So I I still deal with uh all the public all all those issues end of the year, beginning of the year, fiscal year.
6:53So I'm still a little bit involved. And um I said I I like public works. I like that's why I made a career of I take pride when I drive through Mansfield. I think a few months back I had a lady with me. I was showing her. I take pride in everything we accomplished in my 26 years there.
7:13Um because public works if you do it right you leave an impact for generations.
7:19Um engineering I also obviously that's my background in joy. Uh I've been doing what I call my pro bono work. I've been helping a few friends with some projects through the system strictly as a as a friend helping him out because your average person has no way how to get projects through the system. But that's what I call strictly my propono work.
7:44Um, I was on this board for 10 years. I stepped down when I moved out of town because, uh, when my daughter went off to college, uh, I moved closer to Mensfield where I worked because my wife had a lot of health issues I needed to be. I wanted to be closer to work and closer to Mass General. So, that's uh, and then later on after my wife's passing, I moved back
8:08to Dartmouth. And now that I'm retired, that's where I where I live. Uh pay our maker is actually managing the paving job that should start next week. Uh and around around our corner complex.
8:22So um I like this area. That's where I consider home. That's where my kids grew up. That's they both live away, but that's still what they consider home. Um I like the town and I like to try to contribute. I believe with my background I can I've come come across a lot of things in in 37 years.
8:47I can tell you um I was successful in getting monitoring reduced on one of my wells through the EP that you guys are just talking about board members [clears throat] pretty relevant. Yeah.
9:00Ron any questions Mike? Um, I actually am very familiar with Lee's knowledge and performance. Uh, the last six years I was in Dartmouth. He was on the board of public works and I worked with him on numerous projects. Um, lot of sewer projects with him, Dave Hickox, um, you know, a number a number of individuals. And um I don't think the description of his experience and knowledge and his expertise uh Neil
9:33fully describes the way and approach this individual has. And I'm very pleased that in fact he applied because I think he's got the skill sets that this board is going to need tremendously in what's ahead of us. And I think I speak, you know, from my past experience, we've got some formidable issues ahead of us and we need all of the brains we can get on these. What I
10:01do want to speak a little bit about is that I noticed that he was the chair of the joint transportation planning group.
10:10And if our viewers don't know what that is is it's a subgroup of the southeastern regional planning uh and economic development group. And what they do is they are the individuals who manage what is called the TIP which is the transportation improvement program.
10:31And there are numerous categories that they look at. They prioritize. Some involve federal funds, some involve state mass dot funds, uh, grants and everything. Um, the last time I looked at the list and when I attended on behalf of MATO for one of their projects, the list is extremely extensive and I think we've talked a lot about sewer. We've talked a lot about drinking water, but we need to talk
11:00about the issue of how we can address the issue of roads and the condition of roads. And this is not an issue isolated to Dartmouth. I saw this when I worked as the CFO in New Bedford and I saw it in the little town of Matapo. It uh that care maintenance of roads has become extremely expensive and the state funding I won't speak to the issue of the federal funding but the state
11:26funding has not kept pace with the cost of increase of materials and labor. In that regard, Mass Municipal Association has lobbyed hard on that. Uh, but still we see minimal increases in chapter 90 and discretionary funds that the JTPG manages. And I think Lee would bring a lot of experience to the table and how to position us. I will end with just one comment because I seem to remember some
11:54of these things. Manny Branco used to say to me, "Mike, if you can get our projects up to 75% design or 100% design by the standards that are set by the mass dot folks and even if we're not positioned in the second, third, or fourth place in a particular category." Manny said there are plenty of communities that are not at 75% design and 100% design and they get pushed down the tip plan. and he
12:24says we're ready. They jump and they they can jump into those slots. We I think need to get back to that and I think Lee could bring us the assistance to get back to bringing projects up to 75% and 100% design. And I'm thinking particularly a good example is crossro crossroad from the uh school the potter school down to by the uh the endstar building. uh that needs significant work
12:53and Tim's been progressing along very well with that design, but there are issues throughout the town. I mean, we're the fourth largest community in Ma fifth largest community in Massachusetts and we got tons of room. I think I've said enough. I think this would be a valuable asset to the committee.
13:11Thank you, Ron. Any questions?
13:15Is it Lee?
13:16Yes, Lee.
13:17Lee, I I know we've met, but Yes, we have. Yeah. Yeah. Most, you know [snorts] I was on the MO, I think, when you on JT, you know, right? We we've crossed paths many times. I mean, we've been in the business for a long time.
13:29Yeah.
13:30So, yeah.
13:33Lee, what do you see that are the priority challenges for the town in the next 5 years?
13:41Oh, to be honest, at this point, I haven't been as involved with it as I was. I'm sorry, I'll jump in, but I know I know you've had a lot of um you have some housing that's that's coming on.
13:54You have some lingering projects um like you're talking about Crossroad, but even even um Route Six that never and Tucker Road that that intersection we talked about I think we were talking about it back when I was on the board and it was before JTPG. So, u tackle what Mike was saying. Yes, the transportation projects, they're long range.
14:18Uh you have you have to that community has to put some some money into it and to get to get things going and it they can take time. Sometimes it can take a decade to get the project. But if you but the cost of those projects nowadays, it's crazy. I mean, when I retired, you already couldn't get anything done for less than two million. Even even small projects. So now I'm sure you you look at
14:43now you're looking at seven eight million.
14:45Exactly. So even if there's a lot of weight, that's money that the community can't afford to spend on its own. So behooves us to try to to go out there and compete for as much of the federal dollars as we can because the and it is the infrastructure. It's a problem statewide. actually um I think it was American size engineers just released their I think annual evaluation and they gave it was on the it's on
15:12today's globe and they gave the state fairly I think a D I think the the transportation side got a C and and as a whole I believe was a D that [clears throat] uh that they gave the state so it's a statewide problem and it's not going away so that is something that we have to stay on it all the time and and I I know you you I know you got you were sending
15:36your reps to the JTPG before I retired.
15:39It's one of those things. Uh you know, spent many years there and communities will only show up when they need a project are frowned upon. Doesn't mean the projects are aren't aren't ever going to get approved, but they're frowned upon. They expect communities to participate. They need people there on an ongoing basis to participate in the process, not just to show up when you need a project. And I know I know
16:02Dartmouth had been uh active. So I think that there's a lot of things and I and I'm not sure where you are with the plant. You're going to be you're nearing an upgrade on the wastewater plant again.
16:14So we we just uh we're we're working on the approval of the consultant for the comprehensive wastewater management plan. Um, so then that'll first step that'll be about, you know, a year and a half of work before they come up with recommendations for upgrades.
16:31Okay. Yeah, that was the last I completed about 5 years ago was a $40 million upgra wastewater plant upgrade and expansion.
16:42Yeah.
16:43Um, that I managed.
16:46So that and it's it with water and waste water just when you think you're caught up all of a sudden something else comes up or or [clears throat] it ages out and you have to start all over again.
16:58Let me ask you on that specific subject um you you went for the state revolving funds for uh funding and bonding for that particular project.
17:10Yes.
17:11And how many time how many years did you have to apply to get on the intended use plan? We actually did very well because we created the first regional wastewire district in probably 30 years and I think a few places have tried and nobody in the Cape and nobody succeeded since.
17:27It takes a lot to get three communities together. I mean, we were already, like I said, we were joined at the hip because the uh Norton and Foxboro were already customers, and it still took 75 meetings for the communities to come to an agreement to create the regional district, but the state was pushing regionalization.
17:46So, we managed to get uh SRF for about 30 I think it was 27 million out of the 40. We got SRF at zero for 30 years.
18:00How long ago?
18:03I think the approval might have been about seven, eight years ago.
18:06Yeah.
18:06I mean that was So they still were offering the zero at that point.
18:09They were at that point and we were able to get it for 30 years. That's Yes.
18:13That's principal.
18:14Some principal forgiveness is Oh, we didn't get principal forgiveness.
18:17Yeah.
18:18But but we got but we got zero for 30 years. That's that's why we were able to do a 40 million upgrade and with with minimal just regular sewer increases.
18:27Wow.
18:28Yeah, that was quite a but I think part of it was the 13 million that was related to the expansion didn't qualify for the zero was was 2%. But 27 million out of the 40 was so that was that was a great Yeah. So yeah, I've done a lot with the SRF.
18:45That's correct. That's great. Yeah.
18:47Thank you.
18:50How do you see the relationship between the board and the professional staff?
18:58You've been on both sides, so I just Do you have some ideas or observations?
19:07Well, I think like I said, I know I spent 10 years on the board before, mostly uh with Manny Branco and Mark Nunes, and I think we we all recognized what our position was and uh I don't remember having any issues with staff. I mean, they do the work. We we we we provide oversight and I know that Dartmouth's a little different than each community. The um depends on the charter. I always thought
19:36I was entering as chairman of the um [clears throat] of the commission. I was sign off the contracts which in Mensfield I'd have to go to the town manager for but here the chairman at least when I was here the way was it was the chairman of this committee who signed off contracts. Uh so I mean we more more of the I think we are to the DPW similar to the select board is for
20:05everything else but I think uh we not a hands-on I mean they manage the employees.
20:14Okay that's like I said and I know we good for that.
20:20And the reason I still work part time is because I don't manage the employees there either.
20:27Had enough of that, right?
20:28Yes. Yes.
20:30This retirement is nice.
20:32Board members, any questions?
20:34I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Thank you, Mr.
20:36Do you have any questions for us?
20:38No, I mean I I I think uh I guess the the one thing is that you know I I saw that the board expanded from the is expanding from the 3 to 5. um you're meeting in person today, but but you said most of a lot of your meetings are remote.
20:52Yes.
20:52Okay.
20:53Because [clears throat] travel frequently. I know I was just doing my I was approving my uh end of the year bills because they had to be approved by they had to be done by the 15th as I was and from Croatia.
21:08And then I was doing some finance on the bus as I was going into Italy. But I keep connected wherever, you know, I have internet in Portugal. I have internet in Florida where I have where I am, I do business because I I still work part time. So, I'm used to uh to staying in touch and staying connected with the with the people.
21:26And in Massachusetts, you can do a combo anyways. You can do an inerson with the person being remote. Yeah.
21:33The governor's pro that my commission ever since they came became an option, they don't want to meet in person.
21:40Well, got a lot going on in their lives.
21:43Yeah.
21:43Well, and they're coming from three different communities and just their commutes and the meetings are generally the monthly meetings which I have tomorrow generally fairly short. So, they waste they waste a lot less time.
21:54But that's expiring next spring. Again, they haven't made the law permanent yet.
21:59Right.
21:59I think I think it has worked well. I don't I haven't heard of problems with it. I expect it's going to continue to uh because every time they every time they've extended it's been like on the last day or two that day and last time when they extended that's the state.
22:18Yes.
22:19Somewhere between 1 and 3 in the morning.
22:23Exactly.
22:25The idea was that they would make it permanent Yeah.
22:28before before the next expiration. But I I haven't followed. I'm not sure if there's any bills yet that that are out there that would make it permanent, which would be would be good. So, all right. So, tonight u you have a joint meeting with the um with the select board at 6:30.
22:44Yep.
22:45And then they're doing their um they're they're doing their interviews because it's their appointment.
22:50Correct.
22:51Yeah. Yeah. Do you want us to be sitting in this room or do they I know last time which was quite a few years ago they had us sitting here so that uh give people an opportunity to to be interviewed individually.
23:06I don't know how they're not sure.
23:08Yeah.
23:08Yeah. It's a good question.
23:10I can you were a kid back then.
23:14I can I'll definitely confirm that with uh with Melanie from the select board.
23:19I noticed five on the agenda. What's that?
23:22There's five.
23:23Yes. But one which I'm surprised one candidate dropped out.
23:28So because the way things are nowadays, it's surprising that we can, you know, that many people signed up for it.
23:34There were 12 applicants.
23:35Really?
23:36Yes.
23:36Yeah.
23:40Yeah. that new system they have for entering your name and consideration I think has worked out very well because uh you know you can apply for any of the different boards or vacancies and you get on a list with them. It's it's a good system.
23:57It was impressive to see the interest.
23:59Y I'm impressed.
24:00Definitely.
24:01Yeah. I'm missing a commission.
24:02More applicants the better. I'm missing a commission in Mensfield and they've they've had a they've had it on their website for like three months and I just checked and they haven't had anybody apply yet because I know you know when you're down people then if you got one or two that can't make it.
24:18Yeah. Well, you're with three we can't have subcommittees.
24:22Right. Yes.
24:23Which makes a huge difference.
24:24Two people got get together and it's a me it's open meeting violation. Yes. And I think from from my perspective, that's the most important reason to go to five is to be able to have take care of take advantage of people's expertise and ideas and have subcommittees work with the professional staff and just sort sort things out, come up with ideas. And when I started with Manny, I was Yeah,
24:50we had a good uh the three of us had a good we had different uh I was more the current at the time because I was I was immersed in it. Manny remembered all the old stuff and Mark Nun had he he was more in touch with the community. We had between the three of us, we had a pretty much everything covered. It was a really we had a good team for
25:11I think we all left within like two years.
25:14Yeah.
25:15Yeah.
25:17Thank you for your time.
25:19We appreciate it.
25:20Do you have any other questions for for rest of the board?
25:24No. I'm sure there'll be a lot of, you know, there'll be things to read. I assume nowadays you send out your agendas electronically.
25:30Yes.
25:31Yes. And post them physically.
25:33Still post them physically.
25:35You do?
25:35Oh, yeah. You post them physically, but you have a bolton board.
25:38Uh, we did. I don't think we post We don't post them anymore.
25:42Um, they get they just get posted electronically, right? Yeah, they don't get they don't go to the some still anymore.
25:48Some still do, but mostly u I know for my commission technically we could we could get away with just on our website but we still have the three town clerks or the three communities also post.
26:00Yes.
26:01More is better.
26:03Absolutely. You want to give them every opportunity.
26:06You can't have too much public education.
26:09All right. Great.
26:10Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much this evening.
26:13Thank you.
26:15Board members, how do you think we should make recommendations to the select board? I was thinking about that and it could be we each individually [clears throat] rank the four people we've interviewed and provide that and let the select board have the advantage of individual impressions. or we could try and develop a board list.
26:49Well, I I was able to sit in on those five. I was able to sit in on uh three of the five and one of them were Drew. So, three of the four. Um I I have two what I consider top choices.
27:13uh from the interviews and from having worked with them or uh experiencing the knowledge of the kind of work that they've done. Um I know the direction we are going in and I keep uh reiterating that. But to have someone with the experience like Lee has and uh Jim Richie has um I think would bring an awful lot to the board. And I think what it does is it rounds out the board's uh
27:44background and experience. The experience and background and continued familiarity that Jim Richie has in the area of waste water and what I learned from the interview in the area of the drinking water supply for the city of New Bedford, I thought was phenomenal.
28:05and we're dealing we're dealing with those two issues as probably the most paramount. Uh but then I learned also uh beyond what experience I had and some of the involvement I had with him over the years is that his familiarity with uh testing and with project management um is is exceptional. So, I think in that vein, Lee would be extremely uh excuse me, the gym would be extremely beneficial to round it out. Lee's
28:41experience with 15 years being as the chairperson of the joint transportation planning group. I speaks volumes. I brought up Manny Branco's name for a specific reason because Manny would go to every one of those meetings. David Hickox would go to every one of those meets and I have seen Tim there on multiple occasions when I was the unfortunate one that would only go from time to time in
29:06Matapo it until we found someone a retired engineer who would go uh every one of the meetings. Um so I think we now look at the road of the infrastructure and uh his experience with the sewer district up in the Mansfield area. um I think two phenomenal candidates that will round out uh our group of five and help us to approach what we're going to be doing uh in the very foreseeable future. Ron,
29:39they're all good candidates. Well, I there's in my mind there's three good candidates.
29:45Um, you know, I I agree, you know, cuz I have firsthand hand firsthand, uh, you know, watching Jim Richie through the years, you know, I I hired him and just kept giving him things to head up. You know, we had three super fun sites. We, you know, we we did a lot of projects and Jimmy is a good hands-on manager with a wide range of of of knowledge in in a
30:18lot of different areas which is going to be very helpful to the town. Um Andy Andy Greenlaw is is he's a construction guy.
30:28Um he's has a wealth of information.
30:34uh another very very talented knowledgeable man in the field of public works and in all the endeavors we're going to be talking about. Um we you know he's a PE structural engineer um a civil engineer background in public works worked for the town excellent excellent person I I don't who was the fifth settle oh no um the fifth was Glenn Gertridge but he he withdrew so he withdrew because these are the only four that
31:07I've interviewed correct those are the only four that we anybody interviewed you Um, and and this one here, I I mean, I these these are the three that I'm leaning towards. Um, I I mean, are we going to speak to that right now?
31:29Um, it's to the board. It's how you folks You won't be there, correct?
31:37Um, I have moved things around and I'll be there.
31:41Oh, great. as close after six as I possibly can. Probably he's six or six if I'm lucky.
31:47I wasn't aware of that. Okay, good.
31:50So, as I say, I think depending on um it's it's hard to judge how the select board would most use our best use our recommendations, but if we had had uh recommendations in order or a top two that we agreed on, I think that would help sharpen their um their discussions. Uh Tim, we haven't had multiple appointments to this board forever. Is that right?
32:31Correct. Usually it's a single appointment.
32:34So there's really no um no precedent, no guide to know what the select board wants from us. Has Cody given you any information on that?
32:49No. So I I know in the in the agenda it says um you know I think is you know for the for the positions but it didn't state much. So I'll um like I said I'll confirm with the sele office tonight's process. I I mean, I'll just speak my mind, which is so uncommon of me, but um I would like to see Jim Richie on the board. I think he's an asset, and I
33:19agree with Mike 100%.
33:22Between Green Law and and and Lee, I don't have a real preference.
33:29I mean, I like that he's a PE. I like that he's been here. He's worked here.
33:32He knows the town.
33:34Um, and I've known Andy for, you know, I I know all these guys, but my my preference would be Richie and a toss up between the other two.
33:48I would say that I think the select board is going to be looking for the board's recommendation, but I don't know if they're going to hold top first or if they're going to ask.
33:56So, we want to give it one, two, and three to them.
33:59Probably. Yes. because the the the fourth person here I just don't think is uh a good fit.
34:04Yeah, I I agree with Mike. I think um I like Jim Richie's breadth of experience.
34:15And not that he's going to be doing that work, but he understands it. And as we have conversations, as he has an opportunity to give his insight to the staff, um that's a good thing. And I same have the same impression with Lee.
34:32Um Greenlaw I I agree maybe he's the third person on the list and we give them a you know give them a list and see what they want to do with it.
34:49I think one of the things that I I mentioned and sort I want to reiterate is that Lee has been on the board of public works from 2003 to 2015.
35:02Of those 12 years, I worked with him as a town administrator up until 2003 to 2009.
35:12I know him as a known entity uh after he left with the work with the joint transportation planning group. Um and I you know I I regard them how I need to certainly dis uh develop and in fact I didn't interview green law so I couldn't draw a conclusion on that but of the three that I interviewed with our board um I agree with Ron Jim Richie and
35:42my second one would be uh Lee as an era and I'm okay with that. Yeah. Do So I guess it comes down to do we give the select board our top three and let them have a little bit of a choice or do we tell them who our top two are and they either can take a take our advice or not as what if we just gave them three and rated them. This is our first choice,
36:13our second choice, our third choice.
36:15Okay. and and you know and it gives them a little bit of latitude which elected officials enjoy to make you know a decision.
36:28So we give it to them in order. Mike, are you comfortable at not having third the interviewed the third person?
36:34The only the only thing I would have to do is if we're going to take a vote on that is I would have to abstain on uh the matter of green law because I I haven't uh interviewed him. Um, and we got two members here. So, if you added them to the third as the third on the list, uh, you could have that motion.
36:54And I would just note for an abstension on that. But I I would I would make the motion that we recommend uh, Lee as an era, Jim Richie, and uh, we would start with those two in that ranked order.
37:14Do I have a second?
37:15I second that.
37:17All right.
37:18Now, could I add something to that?
37:20Certainly.
37:22I would make a motion that our first two choices are Leaz and James Richie and and a third choice would be Mr.
37:33Green Law.
37:33Okay.
37:35I think perhaps we would vote on the top two and then we would vote. You and I would vote separately.
37:43Okay.
37:44So Mike can abstain.
37:45Yeah, I think that's Well, if I just made that motion, is that Oh, I'm sorry. We're still on the other one. Okay.
37:51So, you can withdraw your motion.
37:52I'll re I will withdraw that motion.
37:54As to the first motion with the top two, how do you vote?
37:59Yes.
38:00And yes, Mike. And I vote yes. Okay. Um, I would like to make a motion to include a rating of of three. Uh, Lee Azinera, number one. Number two would be James Richie and number three would be Andy Greenlaw.
38:20Okay. I will second that motion.
38:23Mr. Chairman, on that motion, since uh the third candidate I was not present for the interview, I will abstain on this particular [snorts] motion.
38:32All right.
38:33Miss Lel, yes.
38:35Chair votes yes. Okay.
38:38Um Tim, can you find a way to make that information available to the uh Absolutely. I'll select board.
38:46I'll put that together in a in a memo for the for the board.
38:49Okay. I I would I would like before we uh take a motion to adjourn, I would like to make a general comment and that I was very impressed that we got 12 candidates for this position. And I think this community is realizing how intricral public works is in getting things so that they're good for the residents of this community. And I think that's why we had such a large group and
39:16some very qualified people. Um I'd like to thank them, the 12 that have applied uh and hope that that kind of interest and involvement continues in the other aspects of this community. And my sincere thank you to the group of 12.
39:34If if I may, could I get a copy? I never I' been a little out of things of late, but could I get a copy of the 12? I never did see the the whole list.
39:44Yeah, I can send it all to you.
39:45Yeah. Thank you.
39:46Thank you. I'm just curious if I knew anybody else on it. I knew everybody that was here. So, you know, when you're in the business that long, you tend to meet just about everybody.
39:56Um with that a motion to adjurnn.
40:01Second.
40:02Motion to adjurnn by Mr. Label, second by Mr. Gier. Uh how do you vote?
40:07Yes.
40:09Chair votes yes. Meeting is adjourned.