Community Preservation Committee Meeting - November 18, 2025

We're going to start this meeting. I'll do it.

People are close. Yeah.

[clears throat] Um is there a second on that? I missed that. Okay. Any um additions or revisions to the minutes?

All right. So, all in favor? All approve.

Thank you.

And we have some invoices.

Oh, we have a lot of Do we have a lot of We have a lot of stuff tonight. So, I'll try to keep us moving through this.

[clears throat] All right.

So, that one's going to get bouncing.

I don't think it needs one, but yeah. And I'm going to We'll take this up with the close out report.

Okay.

So, that's good.

Um, so invoice from Anthony Savastano for $1,140 for um consultation on the um agricultural fund. and in his email that's attached are the hours that were spent on the two um two items that are included in this invoice. So, take a look at that. We flip that around.

[clears throat and cough] And then we have an invoice for $170.

This is for our notice for um the public hearing. Is that correct? Yeah.

which is in December.

Then we have an invoice for $2,86652 and this is for uh progress payment uh related to the housing production plan.

So this is um Sered and this is for their uh staff um staff services and we'll get an update on the on that from folks.

And then an invoice for $13,69250.

This is for the dog park.

And you'll see um the contractor payment document here.

Let's see.

[clears throat and cough] So this includes things such as dig safe, erosion control, site drainage work, uh furnish and install 6 foot high um fence and gates, uh stone dust walkway, uh boardwalk, um and additional rock and ledge removal. All out there the dog park.

[clears throat] We have another invoice for $6,7725 and this is for the um building's condition uh assess assessment work at the DCTV building.

And then another uh related I think that's um yeah that's the architects and then this is $8,1540 [clears throat and cough] which is uh additional work related to the assessment um and construction documents that are being prepared. prepared for the DCTV.

And then another dog park uh invoice of $3,0975.

[clears throat and cough]

And see this looks like site survey and plan development work. [clears throat] It's for GAF engineering and that we're going to deal with in a little bit [clears throat and cough] while folks are taking a look at that.

And when we get all down to the end, you can run us through some votes on those.

But do you need individual votes for each one or can we just do a lump? I probably would do better to do each individual for each one I think just so we know that we'll give ch for people to take a look at that right in the meantime um received correspondence from the uh coalition um and the department of revenue has um identified the trust fund contribution for this here and it works out to be 16.9%

for all the communities like Dartmouth that are first round recipients.

[clears throat] So for us that is going to be $158,211 um less than last year but a little more probably about $20,000 or so more than what we're currently estimating in our projected budget.

[clears throat]

Oh, it's so much warmer in here.

We just might want to extend the meeting tonight.

alternative to going home.

I'm a vacation as of tomorrow.

Oh, okay.

So, no, you love you're repping it.

You're wet in.

Oh, yeah. It's been a long time coming.

You're going someplace warm?

Yes, we're going to Florida for a wedding and then we're going on a cruise.

Oh, nice.

Yes.

Nice.

[clears throat] You'll miss us. I know.

Of course.

My children are going to miss me. I'm not here for Thanksgiving.

Oh my goodness.

[clears throat and cough] McDonald's.

Yeah.

My daughter will How's the turkey going to get done?

It's funny because we have dinner at my daughter's house and I do all the cooking and we go to my sons who lives five minutes away for dessert, but my grandson is actually going to make the turkey.

Really?

Because he's done it with me for a year.

My grand Don't give him one part of it.

So, he's [clears throat] going to That's cool.

Yeah. That's kind of neat.

That's cool.

I have yet to cook a turkey.

I hate turkey.

How is that possible?

My mother-in-law, I love turkey.

Always cooks it. And so far, she's still around.

Still cooking. As long as she's around, that's where it gets done. Yeah.

[clears throat] [snorts]

Boy, [snorts] bring this. My oldest son got married last week.

Oh, congratulations.

Congratulations.

That was big deal. We went to Chicago.

He had a small wedding out in Chicago.

That was fun.

Oh, yes.

Fun. Yep.

I haven't been to Chicago in years. Last time I went, I had such a good time.

It's a That's a fun city.

Yes, it is really a fun city.

Lots of stuff to do.

Yeah. Easy to get around.

Yep.

Yeah.

[clears throat] All right. I think I'm ready.

All right.

Stand. All right. So, first like a make a motion to uh approve um the legal invoice. Actually, wait a minute. This says vendor Anthony Stavasano. Oh, right. But it's FA the agricultural fund conference review in reviewing documents associated with that. Um and that's in the amount of Oh, in the amount of $1,140.

Second.

Second.

Any discussions, questions on that?

Okay. All in favor?

I.

Okay. Next, I'd like to make a motion to approve invoice for uh payable to Dartmouth week uh in the amount of $170 for CPC needs assessment.

And a motion a second.

Second.

Any questions? Okay. All in favor? I opposed. That's unanimous.

All right. Next up, I make a motion uh to to to pay Serped 200 I'm sorry, 2,866.52 um associated with the housing production plan.

Second. All right. Any questions on that?

All in favor?

I and opposed. Uh that's unanimous.

Uh, next I'd like to make [clears throat] a motion to pay Ramco survey stacks um 103,692.50 um for construction and site work related to the Dartmouth dog park.

Sorry. [clears throat] And any discussion questions on that?

All in favor?

I Any opposed? No, it's unanimous.

And I'd like to make a motion to pay Brewster Thornton Group Architects uh in the amount of $8,1540 for work relative to DCTV building assessment.

Second.

And any questions, discussion? All in favor?

Opposed? That's it.

unanimous. Uh, next like to make a motion to pay GAF Engineering, Inc. um $3,97.75 [clears throat] for their engineering work relative to the Dartmouth Dog Park.

Second.

Okay. Any discussion, questions? All right. All in favor?

I opposed. No, that's unanimous.

And lastly, I'd like to make a motion to um to pay Brewster Thornton Group Architects um $6,77.25 uh for their work relative to construction drawings for the DCTV building assessment phase 2.

Second. Right. And any questions, discussion? All right. All in favor?

I I opposed. That's unanimous.

I think with all those motions, you probably burned like 10 calories.

Good job. [clears throat] That was a record.

I think so.

I've never recall approving so many.

That's a lot. That's a lot.

One uh evening. Yeah, I I think that's right John.

[clears throat] Okay. Um I think we're missing one.

Coming right here.

No, we're missing one.

We got more coming.

Oh, there's the last one coming down the pike.

Sorry. Thank you.

Going home.

Souvenir.

Michelle doesn't care. She's gone tomorrow.

I have a lot of work to do before.

[clears throat] How long you going to be gone for?

December.

Wow. Nice.

Nice.

[snorts] [clears throat] Who's going to answer your phone?

Michelle, excuse me.

Who's going to answer your phone?

I'm only kidding. I'm only kidding. I know you're kidding.

I have it all covered.

I know you do.

Throw a rug over it.

Yeah. Yeah. Threw a rug over it.

Yeah, that's a good one.

All right. The next thing on our agenda is um Aken House grant um conditions. So um the Aken House um funds were approved at town meeting. So we will now do a grant agreement with DHPT.

Um and so what I was thinking we have the typical probably for a project like this we have the typical um conditions for release of funds would be to have the executed lease with the town for the property so that we know they have um site control to do this work um and a copy of the contract um for the work to be done on the property. And with those

um things in place, then the funds can be released and then typical of our grant agreements, 10% will be held back um until we get a closeout report, which is basically um saying that all the bills have been sent in and there's no further work to be done. It's all wrapped up kind of thing. Um, [clears throat] so, uh, I guess what I'd like is if we approve of those conditions. We have a

motion to approve of these conditions for the grant agreement.

So, move.

So, second.

Okay. Any discussion?

Okay. Um, all in favor?

I.

Okay. Opposed?

Okay. And I will get that out uh tomorrow.

[clears throat and cough] Okay, we have [cough and clears throat] excuse me. Um couple of closeout reports.

Um and those let's deal with the closeout reports um first because with the closeout reports and I'm trying to get better to make sure we have those in. That's when if we accept the close out reports, then we release the rest of the the balance of uh the funds. And so these are projects that um have submitted reports and documentation that they are completed um all the bills are

in um and they have done the work as proposed and and uh previously approved.

Um so the first I have here um is the Pascam Mansick closeout report. Um and the one with all the photographs there's two documents. One was word document. Um and then there was one has a bazillion um photographs of the property.

So let's see.

So, as Tim has kind of outlined, the property transfer was completed May 30th. Uh, the conservation restriction was recorded on May 30th. Um, as was the deed. Um, and he has an invoice for the balance, which is $25,000.

One question I have for Michelle is do we have a copy of that CR for our files?

Okay, we should we should get one. And if you could ask um Tim to give us the the copy because we should have the copy in our files. And one of the things I have to catch up with on the the CPA database with the Department of Revenue is um to close out a project that has any restriction on it, you have to enter the date and the book and the page

number. So I need this. I need what's stamped on that CR. Um, so if you could check with them, we get a copy of it.

Um, probably next month I'll try to catch up on some of these uh restrict the data for some of this restrictions. Not not urgent. I just have to go in and put that stuff in the database to close them out.

Okay. Um have a motion to accept the closeout report for the past commands drinking water and ergo release the remaining balance of funds.

So moved.

A second.

Second.

Uh any questions, discussion? Okay. All in favor?

Any opposed? Okay. Great.

So this is the uh voucher for that balance.

[clears throat] Okay.

The other uh we have the heritage trail um close out and as indicated here um all the expenses have been paid. Uh the signs have been installed. I don't know if anybody's seen those. There's one right near your house, John. Um yep. Uh and um and they have I did check as Joe had recommended be nice to have a few extra signs. Um and so they do have about eight signs. Uh and they they know

where the signs are.

So if they need them, they know. Um as you'll um notice here, um this came in under budget. Um, so there's um a um probably about $9,851 under budget. What I will do is now confirm with them um the surplus that's in the grant amount um with a letter and just say we we will re you know this is our understanding of the outstanding balance of CPA funds and we know that your project is now

complete so we are going to recapture them and so those funds will go into the recreation reserve. Um, but just in case we have so we just so we don't miss something. Uh, what I typically do is we'll send a letter and just confirm the dollar amount. Um, [clears throat] so have a motion to uh accept the closeout report for the Dartmouth Heritage Trail.

Motion.

Any other questions or discussion?

Question buddy.

Yes. I didn't realize that the uh I forgot that the ownership would go to the pathways committee ownership. In his last statement from Andrew, ownership of the heritage trail now transfers to the pathways committee for future development and expansion.

Oh, I did not catch that. Yeah, I don't recall hearing that on the presentation. Yeah, that I'm I'm not objecting to it.

Right. No, that's a good catch. I did not catch that.

I didn't ever recall having that discussion and understand that the U.

So, you know, was the heritage trail group a subcommittee of the pathways committee? It was never to my recollection, it was never presented that way.

Yeah, I think it was a subcommittee, right? It was not presented that way.

But I think Andrew basically took this on on the pathways on behalf of the pathways committee.

Yeah. But right not described as a subcommittee but he basically took this in terms of Yeah. That's interesting language because um the pathways committee doesn't have any standing to hold anything. It's just a committee of the towns. the town of Dartmouth is the the one who who has ownership over those signs and and where they are and all that kind of stuff. That's great. I did not catch that.

It just doesn't ownership was probably the wrong word to use there.

Yeah, I think Yeah, that was stewardship.

Ownership with a little O or something.

Right. Exactly. Wasn't really stewards of it, you know. But anyway, yeah, that's a great point. Yeah.

Uh any other um questions, comments on this?

Is is that something that we think is an acceptable disposition of what?

Going to the pathways commission.

Well, it's always been that's I think that's the point John was getting clever.

They borrowed the flag.

It's always been with Pathways is Andrew was working on behalf of that committee and basically he was running with it. Um so uh have uh those who approve the closeout report accepting the close out report.

Any opposed?

No.

No. That's unanimous.

And then I will confirm the outstanding balance recapture for um

capture Okay. Um, we just received uh today another closeout report.

Um, and that is for the um Cornell Pond Trail Development.

Um, and I don't know if anybody's had a chance at all to look at that. Has anybody had Okay, if we had a chance I didn't see any issues with it.

What's that?

I didn't see any issues with it.

Yeah. Um, the study is complete and what Chris has provided. Um, if people want to take a quick look at this because it came in today, you want to take a quick look at this. It's uh the assessment of options for um creating a trail that's accessible for the Cornell Pond property that also um can connect with the um I think it's the Howland DNRT.

Yeah, it's a DNRT property that's just up the street about a quarter mile or less.

Let me send this out. Take a look if people want to thumb through this.

And while we're doing that, um I also received uh this morning uh requests for the um from Sandra Medeiros of the South Coast Bikeway Alliance um to extend the term of their current umou um to December 2026. It expires in November. Um I had it expiring November 12th this year. Um, and so they now did they did get the grant from the state for like 225,000 something like that which will now with

the Dartmouth Fall River and New Bedford CPA funds will be uh what they were looking for in order to do the engineering um of the of the bike path.

and uh motion to grant the uh requested extension and second.

Any questions? All right. So, extend to December 26. All in favor?

I oppose. No, that's unanimous. I'll send a letter out.

[cough and clears throat]

Okie dokie.

[clears throat] And then we received a a few um project status reports and I know you there over the time it's they've built up. So I I believe we have it's the ones after. So I it's only really the ones from um after um the mid octo after our October meeting.

Okay. Um [clears throat and cough] but the one question I had um so we had and these are ones that came with the invoices for housing production plan DCTV and the regional park the dog park.

um those I wanted to um get in touch with Chris because it it really um doesn't have anything on like what the current status is of the project which is kind of really what we want to know can only be a line or two but we just kind of want to have a sense of how things are progressing so I'll ask him to just at least fill in something in that section

to let us know where these projects stand um and then um resend them to us.

Percent complete would be nice to know.

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

With some little, you know, a little detail, but we're 40 cent 40% complete with Yeah. It doesn't have to be a lot, but just enough to know where these projects are. Um Yep.

So, I'll ask him to do that. Um the dinghy storage. Uh we did get a detailed uh status report in midocctober the 14th. Um don't know if we've looked at this one. Um but um the harbor master Steve Melo uh has indicated that you know they did not receive the um SEC grant of $45,000 but they went to town meeting um and got approval for a warrant article that um repurposed some

of the uh enterprise retained earnings for this project. Um and so the um along with the CPA um along with the yeah the CPA funds of 9,000 and the warrant article moved um committed 45,000 from the enterprise. Um total funding for the projects is 54,000 that they now have. Um and they are going to move forward with two and look at this as two projects. One is um the um installation of

racks that will hold um beach dinghy kind of structures and then the second is one for kayaks. So there they're two different kinds of structures for storing the kayaks are I guess you can get more on these tree kind of things.

He describes it as a Um and um [clears throat] what they're looking to is get it all done by um March of 2026.

So they have to go out to get bids for these two projects. So they got the funds and then they're moving forward with it.

Okay.

Could um either Margaret or Michael, maybe both of you just give us a little bit on the housing production plan first.

Okay. So, I was at the last meeting. I actually had to leave a little early though because the meeting went a little longer than I I thought it was going to. Um but I think at that particular meeting if I remember correctly and you can jump in here Margaret to save me is that I think we were going through actual like stated goals and trying to come up with the goals and sort of the the strategy

around those goals on on what some of the recommendations that Serbid was making. um primarily based on you know their experience working in other towns but also what they had heard I think from other other folks in town as to um whether it be the uh overlay districts that we talked about um we talked about 40R priorities in terms of um what's the the the new thing for the starter home

program there was so there was a lot of like policy type related initiatives that were discussed about that could be pursued. Um talked about certain locations for some of these districts where they were most appropriate. Um all in an effort to try to achieve the goals of, you know, increasing production of affordable housing for, you know, for a a slew of different um demographic um you know, households. Um

we came up with nine, I believe, right?

Nine of them. And we put them all in order by priority. Yeah.

What everybody thought was the most important and down to the nine. But um planning asked me and that was a draft.

We're still going to get one that's condensed right when she's finished with it. Okay. Because I said it's not done yet. It was just a draft.

Right.

That's my understanding.

Yeah, that's that was my understanding too.

So I didn't know. Is there another meeting? Did they talk at the end about scheduling another one or they'll have another one? But they didn't give a date.

Okay. Yeah. So it's still in progress.

Yes. Almost. So does that is there is a CPA included?

Yeah. So the one strategy that I made was I if you heard my comment on the [clears throat] CPA, they they the way they had it worded, it made it sound like we were only going to entertain funding projects that helped with accessibility related issues. And so I brought up the fact that, you know, again, the CPA funds are typically used to leverage other dollars to develop affordable

housing and we want to make sure that that is being, you know, um, marketed appropriately in our affordable housing production plan.

So that way we can utilize the resources for that goal.

And, you know, I did say that, you know, the state mandates what we can do. So we can't be changing what we're going to be doing because we're mandated by the state. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

No, [clears throat] we were mentioned.

Okay.

Great.

One of the things I thought of was the idea that you had, but I feel like that's a bigger discussion not just amongst us as a community, but us regionally is like the pooling some of the CPA funds together like a regional like a regional pot if you will. Yeah.

For um for projects. So that way, you know, communities that need the affordable housing, but they may not have the dollars, there could be, you know, regionally a way to do that, you know. So, yeah, I think or vice versa. They have the dollars, but they, you know, that's what I meant to say, right? Yeah, I think it'd be interesting um to see what that because the certainly the the CPA does um do

regional projects and actually encourages that some of this. the scenic greenway is a regional kind of CPA effort and yeah and you know especially in um you've got in in our midst communities like the said New Bedford that is a bigger pot of CPA funds um you know and probably in their interest to cool it and help kind of distribute the the kind of the the work of affordable housing that it's not all

just a New Bedford kind of issue, but it's a it would be a vehicle which New Bedford say if you will could pony up.

Um [clears throat] Yeah. No, it makes me think of like u you know the federal home funds where certain communities like probably New Bedford they get direct home funds from HUD. Um, and then there's other communities [clears throat] that like Taton where there's a consortium of communities. So, it's like basically from Lakeville all the way to Attboro, but Taton's sort of the the administrator of the program and they

have a regional fund. So, if there's a project in Attboro, if there's a project in, you know, Lakeville or whatever, they can have that project come before the, you know, the the Greater Adabro Ton Home Consortium and then they they vote on that particular project. So they they kind of pull the resources of the region together to try to advance affordable housing.

Mhm.

So um made me think of that when you brought it up. So I think it's a good idea. I just don't know if it's something we would want to incorporate in the production plan or because right now at least the way it's drafted at least it says that the CPA funds could be used right to leverage those dollars you know. So I think that's good probably good enough for now.

Uhhuh.

Yeah. It might be interesting to um float that with the SER head folks because while it might not be a kind of a particular fit for this production plan, you know, it's an idea that they might an idea that SER headed maybe could provide a little structure for. The other thing, I'll just throw this out there that I know that some other communities have done with CPA funds is that they've actually bonded for

[snorts] a particular project, municipal bonds, and they've used the CPA funds to pay for the debt service on the bonds.

Yeah.

And so it could be used in that capacity too, again, just as a financing mechanism to advance a a project that uh the community really supported, let's say, you know, town. Are you meaning that a um uh to commit ahead of time to pay debt service on a project being undertaken?

Yeah.

Um I didn't know we could do that.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, I didn't know we could do that.

Well, I mean in the in the past here was borrowing early. Yeah. Early on in town. Yeah. On um land acquisitions.

Oh, because those are big numbers all all up front. And so, um, we did a probably a five or six.

um our debt service got really high percentage almost 50% of our revenue at one point and then we had met with finance committee u number of years ago and they were really you know kind of cautioning us to get get our debt service below 25% on um the committee which now we just giving them got it down to zero so we haven't borrowed probably for about 20 years something like that

yeah No, I'm just throwing out there as a again it's a tool that other communities are doing and you know as terms of the production plan if we want to to state that that's an option we could just I mean it's already out there I mean it's it's definitely an option it's a choice we but it's a choice we as a community would make to not that there's a project right now to do it right

but to be willing to do it I guess to be open to doing it if if the right project came around um and obviously that doesn't exist right So [clears throat] had to yeah we certainly we have the room to borrow um because we have no debt service at this point and we've had the experience. So I would imagine it's it's fair to say that yeah that's a that's a possibility.

The committee would have to really weigh you know the particular the particulars of it but in terms of a tool Yeah.

Yeah. that's available to us.

Yeah, it would definitely have to be really a municipal like a project that the municipality really wanted that they brought forward. I I couldn't see that happening like for just an outside developer coming and saying, "Oh yeah, let us do that." You know, but yeah.

Um but like I know like other communities like needm has looked into it as well for one a couple of their properties more associated with redevelopment of public housing.

How does regional collaboration between towns work?

um with the CPA. I haven't seen that, so I don't know. That's sort of new. But I know that on [clears throat] the home funds, like I mentioned, um it it just is it's a it's a cooperation agreement amongst the communities and and as the example I gave in Taton, they're the administrator of the of the program. Um but there's a board a board or committee that Okay. administrative services.

Yeah. They they just administer the program. Yeah.

I I knew of another case where a town housing authority um basically provided staffing I mean the management of an adjacent town's housing authority and uh Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Similar model. Yeah.

Right. Great. Well, thank you both for taking on a bunch of extra meetings.

Um, sounds like the conversations are interesting.

Yeah.

Um, so we appreciate it.

Yeah. Serpent's doing, I think, doing a good job of leading it, too.

Yes.

Yeah.

Uh-huh. Great. Great.

Any other questions, thoughts on the production plan, right? Welcome, Joe.

Always good to see you.

Meeting one meeting to another.

Yeah. Yeah.

Um, so old business, uh, open space preservation process. Um, I think, um, there's I have on my books a meeting this week with, um, Cody and um, Mark, but I have to check and see if that's if that's still happening. I think that was Cody's intention was to um follow up with our previous meeting um with some more specifics about um how the town um would um structure a um

a joint um CR like how would they contract for it? what would the basic terms of it look like in terms of the kinds of things that the town would be responsible for versus say like a buzzard's bay kind of thing. Um, but I'm not sure. I have to check with him. I I haven't gotten any notice. I just had it in my book because we had talked about

this date. Um, so I don't know if that's going to happen, but I think that's one of the things that um, uh, Cody is trying to work out with uh, Mark. So what would that look like? I think that does seem I think everyone agreed that it is an important um it would be an important feature that would enable the town to hold additional conservation restrictions without overt taxing the the limited staff that they

have. um if we were to do future um acquisitions for open space or agriculture or uh recreation that needed a restriction on it. Um if it was jointly held, we could CPA funds could could fund the endowment that would represent the um private entities um kind of commitment to in the joint um joint CR. So I'll see if um if that's um still on for this week, but if not, it'll it'll that's the next step for

that. So I think that's kind of moving along. I think people kind of understand and concept a you know a way forward. So I think that's still pretty good. Um the uh I did get you related to open space. I did get a question from uh Nick at DNRT.

Um they're looking at the possibilities.

They have a plan. and they would like to make um the um at Ocean View, which is the um open space parcel way out on Jordan Road out that way.

Oh, yeah.

Um next to around the Ben Farm uh that's was acquired with CPA funds. Um and they have a trail that goes way out on the property and then they have an observation deck. I don't know if anybody's walked out there. um they would like to make um make that uh handicapped accessible. So, I'm inquiring. I I asked uh Nick to um send us a um uh eligibility consultation.

We could talk to um talk to him in December. So, in the meantime, I've kind of um sought some uh opinion from the um coalition and um saying Is this something that would work since the property was originally acquired with CPA funds? So, um, so, um, Nick should be here. So, the plan is Nick would come at our December meeting. We'll talk about that idea and [clears throat] I will have an

answer from the coalition by then on that.

Um, historic building inventory.

Yep. We have gotten all except for one.

We've gotten all the form B drafts and we're waiting on the last which is form A for the Smith Mills camp.

[clears throat] Um but she's made the visit. She's doing the write up and we have a meeting scheduled for next Tuesday at 9 here in the office. Um myself, Sue Gaduchi and Linda D. Ro is volunteering her time to help us since she's been through this process a few times before. And we're going to get everything printed out and review it um together and make comments and then give

it back to Lynn so she can do some final edits.

And uh we're hoping by February to get the last one and be able to review it.

It might be March, but seems like we're very close.

Good.

Uh, questions.

Um, and we haven't received any invoices.

She hasn't sent anything.

Okay.

Just drafts of reports.

All right.

Do we get any more from them on the uh the old library north library on their property? Is there anything more on that or I have not heard a thing. I know that they I know they they came in talk about that. It's kind [clears throat] of been radio silent for a while. I wasn't sure if they just kind of let it go.

Yeah. Well, I it um trying to think here.

I know we had some discussion on it whether or not it was going to be available for other than like the Boy Scouts or whatever it was would be for public to go in. I think that was the hangup, but I wasn't sure if they worked through that with the property owner.

Right. I think it was left that we we had um uh had asked uh Salastano's office for you know just some thoughts on like is this something that's feasible you know how would that work and the response was um this really should be driven by the select board okay wanting to do this and so they should go to the select board and say we they are willing to do this. Is that something we

should, you know, we could do? And then Sastan is off. So then it would be worth going through the the details, which it kind of makes sense. Um it would have been a while. So I just just I don't think they I don't think they've gone to the select board.

Yeah.

Okay.

[clears throat] Um the A fund, we didn't get a chance to talk, but we'll talk. Um but anything you can Yeah. So there's there's been a discussion about um the the group that would hold the fund. So I think we had talked about it being the adcom itself.

Yeah. And um Sue Gaduchi has some really good points about why it should be something that resembles the former egg preservation um fund group. Um and that's because it had people from different boards so that it would get input from more than just the adcom on potential properties um to preserve. So, we're at kind of a [clears throat] how do how do we do that?

Okay. Yeah, the statute is pretty clear.

It has to be it's under the a commission, right?

So, it that probably that can't be altered.

Okay. But then how to get to this other piece where these um I think because it uh when land comes up um you know it usually comes up pretty quickly and it's so having the opinion of different boards and having different ords and parts of the town kind of understanding what's going on makes it just quicker for these things to happen.

M and so I guess we're at the you know how how do you get input from different groups on to which pieces to preserve and which not.

[clears throat] That's why I want to talk to you.

Okay. Yeah, we could talk about that.

There's probably probably ways to to figure that out. Um is um if you want to talk to any about like what a capitalization plan might look like in terms of dollar figures.

You don't have to quote any dollar figures, but you talking about that or it's been a slow process.

Okay.

Yeah. So I you know, we would, you know, love to to move forward with the January application, which would mean December that we'd, you know, come and um request a a consultation, but I just don't know that at the speed of the adcom, which is an ex a slightly slower group.

Um I think you know because it just doesn't meet as often and um so but I I think if we can figure out this hiccup of there's kind of a divide in the adcom about [clears throat] who should hold it and and knowing some more technicalities about that and if there is a way to solve getting input from other I think we'll make it move faster. Mhm. Mhm. Okay, great. Well, we can we can chat about

that of like how to strategize ways of doing something like that. Okay, sounds good.

Um, next item on any other questions on the egg fund.

Okay, just to remind folks where we left off is um the town meeting does not have to create an egg fund by statute. Um egg funds can be established by the town itself. It's essentially an accounting thing and can name the fund uh and the fund then can receive um receive dollars um for it kind of the way the conservation fund works.

[clears throat] So, we have um uh to post um our funding schedule for uh for fiscal 27. So, this is kind of the dates to um receive and review proposals for June and October town meetings next year. Um so I looked at our typical funding schedule and made adjustments for um for 2026.

Um so proposals so for June round proposals would be due on the 28th of January.

um and we would receive them um and talk about them in our February meeting and then in our March meeting we would make our recommendations because we'd have the public hearing on the proposals and then usually we can make recommendations on the proposals at our March meeting. Uh and then town meeting would be June 2nd. Um, and then for October, the proposals would be due the June 24th. We would review them at

our July meeting and then have presentations in August and make our recommendations.

And the town meeting um on our typical schedule would be the 20th of October next year.

So, what we need to do if if any questions or have a motion, we'll approve this and then um we'll need to get it posted on our web page.

So, moved.

Second.

Any questions?

All right. All in favor?

I. [clears throat] Any opposed? That's unanimous.

Can we do this? Can you do postings from a cruise ship?

Yes. I mean, the Wi-Fi let you do anything right?

I am not getting that, believe it or not.

All right.

But I can probably get that up tomorrow.

Okay. I'll email this to you.

Okay.

I do have one question. Sorry.

Yeah.

Do we need to And the answer is probably no because it's not here. Do we need to put the date like in other words, the last date of requests is December 5th of this calendar year. Do you need to put the date of the like for them to make a presentation? You know what I mean? How they usually come in and to appear before the CPC? Do they do we need to

have to offer that or tell them when when that would be?

Well, um we typically haven't um that's just kind of scheduled because as as that goes, we we do that with other correspondents in the process. Once we get a proposal, okay, then we say we're going to we will we invite we send a letter inviting them to come to um Okay. I don't So I don't think so, but Okay, it's fine.

Two months, January, February.

Yeah. No, right. That's what I was wondering if something like in between those dates put like presentations or something. Okay.

All right.

So our next meeting is going to be December I think December 9th I believe.

December 9th.

Um again we have two two important things um to do. Um, one is, um, approve the, um, fiscal 27 needs assessment and plan, which we're required to by statute to do that. So, we'll see if we've got any comments.

We'll talk about it, make any adjustments to it, and then approve it and post it on our website. Uh and then the second is we'll need to go through the current agreements um and um look at which ones are still active and need extensions and vote extensions because we've tried to line up our agreements as either expiring in December 31st or expiring June 30th. So there'll be a few that we'll look at and

want to uh that are still active and then we'll want to approve extensions for those. So a couple important things we don't want to kind of miss. So um you know I will let's see December 9th I probably could bake some cookies for the important thing.

We should bake I probably could do that.

Um, some cookies and Gretchen would bake some, I think, if I asked. So, and then we're supposed to tell which ones are which.

Yeah, we could do that again. And Joe missed out last year.

Yeah, I know. I missed the cookies.

Yeah.

Yeah. Still distraught about that, but they were good.

They were very good.

Mike had a Mike had a good nose for it.

He could tell which was which were mine.

Great.

Great.

Okay. I think um I think that is our agenda. All right, we have a motion to and we have a second. And all in favor of adjourning, happy Thanksgiving to all. Thank you all for coming. Great to see you.